In the Beginning

Where to start? How about in the beginning. Sociaty at large would have you belive the universe started with a big bang. I submit Society is wrong. What exactly do they belive?

The Big Bang Theory is the dominant scientific (or what they call science) theory about the origin of the universe. According to the big bang, the universe was created sometime between 10 billion and 20 billion years ago from a cosmic explosion that hurled matter and in all directions.

In 1927, the Belgian priest Georges Lemaître was the first to propose that the universe began with the explosion of a primeval atom. (In the beginning there was Dirt) His proposal came after observing the red shift in distant nebulas by astronomers to a model of the universe based on relativity. Years later, Edwin Hubble found experimental data to help justify Lemaître's theory. He found that distant galaxies in every direction are going away from us with speeds proportional to their distance .

The big bang was initially suggested because it explains why distant galaxies are traveling away from us at great speeds . The theory also describes the existence of cosmic background radiation. Radiation was discovered in 1964 by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson.

Keep in mind that Science use to explain what it observed based on theory about our universe before. The world was flat and the center of the universe the sun planets and stars roted around the Earth. In it's day this was widely accepted, and of course Christians who knew better becouse of what God hadden written in the Bible said diffrently were ridiculed and persicuted for thir belifs. History has even been written to omit that they were Christians and base their ideas off the Bible. Who were these people you ask? well you probably know of them they were Christians such as Newton, Galileo, Columbus, and many others. And yes their belif in God and study of the Bible is where they learned what they were known for. Have you ever read about them? well here is a link thats lists a few and what they did http://www.creationsafaris.com/wgcs_toc.htm

Although the Big Bang Theory is widely accepted, it is a theory and has been proven wrong numerous times. What you never heard that before? I am not supprised. Oh ok it's a theory and they are just educated guesses, how educated? Lets go over a few things.

1st, What is Science?
according to Websters (which has many deffinitions) it is.
- the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding
- knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method

2nd, What is the scientific method'?
The simple version looks something like this:
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation. (Note: if any observation or test results do not agree with the hypothesis the hypothesis is wrong, you must reform a new hypothesis)
6. When consistency is obtained the hypothesis becomes a theory and provides a coherent set of propositions which explain a class of phenomena. A theory is then a framework within which observations are explained and predictions are made.
7. If no observations or test results are ever found that do not support the hypothesis or theory it then becomes a law.

Simple right you probably remember learning it in high school. Well under this method - if any data, test results, or observations are found that do not follow the hypothesis or theory then it is wrong and must be rethought. You should note it does not specify how to rethink it. But you would assume that the new hypothesis would take into account the new data, test results, or observations after all it is a educated guess right?

You should understand there is a inherent flaw in this methodology. Your Therory or Law is only as good as the data, testing, and observations you can gather. This means for example if you are limited in what you can gather your results are based on only a partial picture. (if you lived in a box with no outside influnce you would assume the universe is made of the box.) This also means if you choose to ignore data, tests, or observations your hypotesis and law may be and most likely is flawed. The biggest problem today is so called scientest delibertly choose to ignore any data, test, and observations that do not agree with the Big Bang.

Ok so now lets talk data, tests, and observations.
There are litterly hunderds and thousands of scientific data, tests, and observations that disprove the Big Bang theory. So I will not list them all here (it would take more than my life time) but please follow the links and read below to see some of the most comonly known ones. Also check out http://www.icr.org/ for scientific updates. (also found on the side bar under Links)

Hovind Theroy -video (A must see)
http://drdino.plaingospel.com/seminar6_300k.wmv

The 2nd law of thermal dynamics -video (A must see)
http://www.nwcreation.net/videos/thermodynamic_arguments.html

The age of the Earth -video
http://www.nwcreation.net/videos/evidence_for_youngearth.html

Here are nearly a dozen natural phenomena which conflict with the evolutionary idea that the universe is billions of years old. The point is that the maximum possible ages are always much less that the required evolutionary ages, while the biblical age (6,000 years) always fits comfortably within the maximum possible ages. Thus the following items are evidence against the evolutionary time-scale and for the biblical time-scale.

Some of the items on this list can be reconciled with an old universe only by making a series of improbable and unproven assumptions; others can fit in only with a young universe. The list starts with distant astronomic phenomena and works its way down to Earth, ending with everyday facts.

1. Comets disintegrate too quickly.
According to evolutionary theory, comets are supposed to be the same age as the solar system, about five billion years. Yet each time a comet orbits close to the sun, it loses so much of its material that it could not survive much longer than about 100,000 years. Many comets have typical maximum ages (on this basis) of 10,000 years.
Evolutionists explain this discrepancy by assuming that (a) comets come from an unobserved spherical 'Oort cloud' well beyond the orbit of Pluto, (b) improbable gravitational interactions with infrequently passing stars often knock comets into the solar system, and (c) other improbable interactions with planets slow down the incoming comets often enough to account for the hundreds of comets observed. So far, none of these assumptions has been substantiated either by observations or realistic calculations.
Lately, there has been much talk of the 'Kuiper Belt', a disc of supposed comet sources lying in the plane of the solar system just outside the orbit of Pluto. Even if some bodies of ice exist in that location, they would not really solve the evolutionists' problem, since according to evolutionary theory the Kuiper Belt would quickly become exhausted if there were no Oort cloud to supply it.

2. Not enough mud on the sea floor.
Each year, water and winds erode about 25 billion tons of dirt and rock from the continents and deposit it in the ocean. This material accumulates as loose sediment (i.e. mud) on the hard basaltic (lava-formed) rock of the ocean floor. The average depth of all the mud in the whole ocean, including the continental shelves, is less than 400 metres.
The main way currently known to remove the mud from the ocean floor is by plate tectonic subduction. That is, sea floor slides slowly (a few cm/year) beneath the continents, taking some sediment with it. According to secular scientific literature, that process presently removes only one billion tons per year. As far as anyone knows, the other 25 billion tons per year simply accumulate. At that rate, erosion would deposit the present amount of sediment in less than 12 million years.
Yet according to evolutionary theory, erosion and plate subduction have been going on as long as the oceans have existed, an alleged three billion years. If that were so, the rates above imply that the oceans would be massively choked with mud dozens of kilometres deep. An alternative (creationist) explanation is that erosion from the waters of the Genesis Flood running off the continents deposited the present amount of mud within a short time about 4500 years ago.

3. Not enough sodium in the sea.
Every year, rivers and other sources dump over 450 million tons of sodium into the ocean. Only 27% of this sodium manages to get back out of the sea each year. As far as anyone knows, the remainder simply accumulates in the ocean. If the sea had no sodium to start with, it would have accumulated its present amount in less than 42 million years at today's input and output rates. This is much less than the evolutionary age of the ocean, three billion years. The usual reply to this discrepancy is that past sodium inputs must have been less and outputs greater. However, calculations which are as generous as possible to evolutionary scenarios still give a maximum age of only 62 million years. Calculations for many other sea water elements give much younger ages for the ocean. An alternative (creationist) explanation is that erosion from the waters of the Genesis Flood running off the continents deposited the close to present amount of minerals within a short time about 4500 years ago. and the difrince has occured in normal run off before and after the flood for a total of about 6000 years.

4. Earth's magnetic field is decaying too fast.
The total energy stored in the Earth's magnetic field has steadily decreased by a factor of 2.7 over the past 1,000 years. Evolutionary theories explaining this rapid decrease, as well as how the Earth could have maintained its magnetic field for billions of years, are very complex and inadequate. A much better creationist theory exists. It is straightforward, based on sound physics, and explains many features of the field: its creation, rapid reversals during the Genesis Flood, surface intensity decreases and increases until the time of Christ, and a steady decay since then. This theory matches paleomagnetic, historic, and present data. The main result is that the field's total energy (not surface intensity) has always decayed at least as fast as now. At that rate the field could not be more than 10,000 years old.

5. Many strata are too tightly bent.
In many mountainous areas, strata thousands of feet thick are bent and folded into hairpin shapes. The conventional geologic time-scale says these formations were deeply buried and solidified for hundreds of millions of years before they were bent. Yet the folding occurred without cracking, with radii so small that the entire formation had to be still wet and unsolidified when the bending occurred. This implies that the folding occurred less than thousands of years after deposition.

6. Injected sandstone shortens geologic 'ages'.
Strong geologic evidence exists that the Cambrian Sawatch sandstone -- formed an alleged 500 million years ago -- of the Ute Pass Fault, west of Colorado Springs, was still unsolidified when it was extruded up to the surface during the uplift of the Rocky Mountains, allegedly 70 million years ago. It is very unlikely that the sandstone would not solidify during the supposed 430 million years it was underground. Instead, it is likely that the two geologic events were less than hundreds of years apart, thus greatly shortening the geologic time-scale.

7. Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic 'ages' to a few years.
Radiohalos are rings of color formed around microscopic bits of radioactive minerals in rock crystals. They are fossil evidence of radioactive decay. 'Squashed' Polonium-210 radiohalos indicate that Jurassic, Triassic, and Eocene formations in the Colorado plateau were deposited within months of one another, not hundreds of millions of years apart as required by the conventional time-scale. 'Orphan' Polonium-218 radiohalos, having no evidence of their mother elements, imply either instant creation or drastic changes in radioactivity decay rates.

8. Helium in the wrong places.
All naturally occurring families of radioactive elements generate helium as they decay. If such decay took place for billions of years, as alleged by evolutionists, much helium should have found its way into the Earth's atmosphere. The rate of loss of helium from the atmosphere into space is calculable and small. Taking that loss into account, the atmosphere today has only 0.05% of the amount of helium it would have accumulated in five billion years. This means the atmosphere is much younger than the alleged evolutionary age.
A study published in the Journal of Geophysical Research shows that helium produced by radioactive decay in deep, hot rocks has not had time to escape. Though the rocks are supposed to be over one billion years old, their large helium retention suggests an age of only thousands of years.

9. Not enough Stone Age skeletons.
Evolutionary anthropologists say that the Stone Age lasted for at least 100,000 years, during which time the world population of Neanderthal and Cro-magnon men was roughly constant, between one and 10 million. All that time they were burying their dead with artefacts. By this scenario, they would have buried at least four billion bodies. If the evolutionary time-scale is correct, buried bones should be able to last for much longer than 100,000 years, so many of the supposed four billion Stone Age skeletons should still be around (and certainly the buried artefacts). Yet only a few thousand have been found. This implies that the Stone Age was much shorter than evolutionists think, a few hundred years in many areas.

10. Agriculture is too recent.
The usual evolutionary picture has men existing as hunters and gatherers for 100,000 years during the Stone Age before discovering agriculture less than 10,000 years ago. Yet the archaeological evidence shows that Stone Age men were as intelligent as we are. It is very improbable that none of the four billion people mentioned in item 9 should discover that plants grow from seeds. It is more likely that men were without agriculture less than a few hundred years after the Flood, if at all.

11. History is too short.
According to evolutionists, Stone Age man existed for 100,000 years before beginning to make written records about 4,000-5,000 years ago. Prehistoric man built megalithic monuments, made beautiful cave paintings, and kept records of lunar phases. Why would he wait a thousand centuries before using the same skills to record history? The biblical time-scale is much more likely. and actually reflects the written records and artifacts of man.

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Well acording to the Scientific method its back to the drawing board for that therory? so why is it still taught?

Why is the Big Bang being taught in schools, collages, the newspapers, the discovery chanels, National Geographic, etc. Satan is alive and still spreading lies and the whole world is sucking it up hook line and sinker. Yes there is a conspericy on Satans part to have us not belive in God. Do not be fooled it's all lies. Only God's word is true even if that makes every man a lier.

So how did it all start what happened in the beginning? how long ago was it?

about 6,000 years ago God created the Earth and everything on it in 6 days, about 4500 years ago there was a global flood (God did not like what we had became and done with the planet all was wiped out except for Noah and his family and the animals in the Ark). Before the flood above the layer of air on the earth was a layer of ice. This layer of ice caused the the air on the earth to be about twice the atmospheric presure it is today. It is worth noting this pre flood earth had no rain and man lived close to 900 some years old. anyway the flood is for another post.

In the beginning was God. And this is not just a theory but a Law. No evedince exists or every will to disprove it. If you think you have heard somthing or were taught somthing to the contrary do the research and math do not assume the society at large is correct no matter how many librarys of information are written on the subject. If none of it holds water its still wrong.

Jhn 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
The same was in the beginning with God.All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Hbr 1:10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Gen 1:1-31
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so.
And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that [it was] good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein [there is] life, [I have given] every green herb for meat: and it was so.
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Gen 2:1-4
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,